Top AI Scientist Unifies Wolfram, Leibniz, & Consciousness | William Hahn

Could it be Turtles all the way down? Are language and math virtual machines running on our brain neurons? Do cells and atoms compute, and work on a deeper level of computation at the quantum level that may be a kind of software that acts like a virtual machine on top of multiple dimensional substrates like space-time or something unknowable? 

Are we ghosts in the machine, or are we machines inhabited by emergent ghosts? 
Is schizophrenia simply emulating multiple people, and can we mirror others? 

I went on this journey in 2003 and never thought I would meet anyone else who had experienced the same thing.